Although I didn’t take part in the comments thread on Albion’s article yesterday, I’ve been watching it with fascination and dishing out several thumbs up as everybody else piled in their own opinions, including Britain First’s coordinator for Scotland, Gary Raikes. I would like to address the thread as a whole and Gary’s comments specifically.
Broadly speaking there are two schools of thought. One holds that we would have been better off in the long run had the Germans been able to invade Britain in the Second World War, and the other suggests that this type of discussion is exactly what gives the nationalist movement a negative image and should not be allowed. In this article I will attempt to hopefully reconcile the two groups: if you begin to think I disagree with you, please pay careful attention and read to the end because I might not be.
I myself think this is a false dichotomy – it’s not necessary to occupy one of those schools of thought or the other. I have to accept that, should Britain have been subject to Nazi government, we would not be experiencing the problems of mass immigration, multiculturalism and the decline of the indigenous race in Britain (that much is inarguable). However I do believe we would have experienced many different problems, possibly as severe: totalitarianism; the police state; a different form of political correctness whereby criticizing the regime is dangerous.
I am not going to write an essay on fascism and/or National Socialism and why I would prefer not to live under it (I realise that many patriots and nationalists do advocate this system, or at least claim that they would not mind it). I am however going to offer my opinion on the discussion of this prospect, and on Gary Raikes’ response yesterday.
The people who have said that wishing the Nazis had won the war gives nationalism a negative image are perfectly correct – this is beyond argument. If we were to spread this message to the public we would become even more reviled and our chances of success would decline to even more minuscule levels – you can argue that the people might eventually wake up to such a viewpoint, but you cannot be sure that would happen and you must agree that it has not happened yet.
However, there is an important question here of who you are addressing and for what purpose. The comments area on a British Resistance article is not an address to the public and nor is it hugely read by them. In effect it is a conversation between nationalists and so I suggest that discussion of any type should be allowed, unless it puts individuals or the site in jeopardy – so I cannot agree with people who seem to think these comments should not have been allowed, or that they damage the movement, and that includes Gary.
If these comments had been made in a more public forum or by an official then I would have had to agree with Gary.
For anyone who hasn’t read his comments yet, I will paste them here to save you from trawling through the thread:
“Far from a sissy boy, if you would care to leave your real name I would be happy to pay you a visit and talk things over, of course you haven't the courage to even post using your real name, nice and comfy at your mums is it.
People like you are what is driving good decent nationalists away from the cause, I am dissappointed your sort of infantile nonsense is even let through by the moderators.
Sorry but I feel dirty just replying to you and need to take a break from your crap.”
Gary, you might be disappointed that CorshamCrusader lets though comments from nationalists you disagree with, but I am disappointed at the quality and tone of your comment, you who occupy a position on the standing committee at Britain First. This comment does not seem professional or sensitive in the slightest, and I can apply the same criticism to many of the comments made by your colleagues on this site. I don’t think I need to explain to our readers why I think that.
“Sorry to say this will be the last contact I have with this site.
Have you been to the death camps and seen the piles of glasses, shoes,hair? My uncle was at the liberation of Belsen are you telling me he is a liar?
Sorry but this site has taken a huge backward step in becoming pro Nazi, such a shame but maybe thats the plan, destroy every nationalist hope by dragging us back to the old days.
I wish you luck you will need it.”
These are not the only comments Gary submitted to the site, and in fact there were some good ones too – but this article does not concern itself with them.
Again I’m not going into an essay on the fakery of various elements of history and I’d like readers to assume nothing about my position for the purpose of this article. I will say though that piles of glasses, shoes and hair have multiple interpretations, many of them not suggesting that National Socialism was responsible for the mass murder of millions of Jews.
Mr. Raikes, I am thoroughly disappointed that you have decided to sever contact with this site, as I believe your complaint is unfounded. This site has not become “pro Nazi” – a small number of comments have suggested that had the Nazis invaded, we would not be suffering certain problems. Nowhere did GA or CC suggest that the site supports Nazism in this sense and neither did most of the comments (I say most because I have not read all of them).
As a writer for this site I urge you to reconsider this decision, as failing to communicate with other nationalists can only perpetuate the divisions within the movement and hinder us as we attempt to recover from our recent decline.
I would be interested to hear anyone’s opinion on what I have said.
Gary, in another one of your comments you stated that ‘Elite Commander’ (myself) is a member of Britain First – this is not true at this moment in time.
I chose the image for this article based on my Paltalk and ID avatar and because I couldn't think of anything else.